The case of Rhode v Bonta out of the State of California has made its way back and forth from the District court to the Circuit Court multiple times. Currently the Injunction provided by Judge Benitez is stayed by the motions panel of the 9th. That stay and the way it was handed down is causing lots of confusion and questions.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So today, we're going to be talking again about Ro VB, and that's because ever since the ninth circuit motions panel stayed the injunction by Judge Bonitz, there have been a lot of questions. There's a lot of confusion, a lot of unresolved issues, and that's because the stay was somewhat vague. It didn't answer a lot of questions, and now it's got people wondering if what they're doing is even legal and what's going on with their orders. Again, there's a lot to cover here, so we're going to try and cover at least a majority of it today, so stay tuned.

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Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here. Now, let's start off by talking about what's going on with the stay. So, as I'm sure you're aware, the ninth circuit motions panel placed a temporary administrative stay on Judge Bonitz's injunction, which basically overturned California's ammunition background checks, the importation laws, and other laws that surrounded the ammunition regulations in the state of California. So, that stay was placed on his injunction so that the law would basically remain in effect until further time. Now, that further time is when a merits panel is going to have a chance to take a look at this as well and decide whether or not to uphold the stay and basically keep the stay in place until the case is resolved, or to deny that stay and uphold Judge Bonitz's injunction.

Now, I made some correlations between the May v. Bon case, which is a case that challenges California's carry ban, the so-called sensitive places in California, and how the Motions panel also placed a stay in that case, but then the merits panel later overturned that injunction. And so, it's kind of the same thing that's happening here. However, in the May case, there was already a merits panel that had been assigned. So, it was possible that in this case too, we could see something happen fairly quickly. However, in this case, in Ro v. Bon, there is no merits panel established as of yet. The merits panel and the Motions panel, they sort of rotate by month, and so you get a fresh three-set judge panel each month, and each time it's determined differently. So, as of right now, there is no merits panel. There's no active merits panel to take a look at this. So, the stay is currently in place until we get that merits panel, the merits panel has a time to take a look at this case and determine whether or not to uphold the stay or uphold the injunction. But again, as of right now, it's kind of in limbo until we get that three-judge panel that can take a look at things a little bit deeper.

Now, I do want to mention that Chuck Michel of Michel & Associates, who is the volunteer president of the CRPA, an organization that if you live in the state of California, you need to be a member of, these guys are up to some pretty big things. They're getting the wins, they are there for you in California, and Michel & Associates honestly is one of the best on the planet. So, I know I don't say this enough, but if you're in California, make sure you become a member of the CRPA. But with that being said, Chuck Michel and the CRPA, Michel & Associates, are going to petition the ninth circuit to have a three-judge merits panel assigned to this case as quickly as possible. Whether or not that'll happen quickly is still kind of up for debate because we know the ninth circuit, they're not very good at these things, and they'll try and delay things. But at least they're going to petition the ninth to have that merits panel assigned quickly.

Okay, so now let's go and talk about those orders that were placed while the injunction was still in effect. So, until February 5th, where the stay was placed. So, there were people out there who decided that they were going to spend everything they had. They went out to their local shop, they went to the store, they picked it up, they made their transaction, they had it in hand, the transaction is complete, it's home, it was all done during the injunction. Now, there was also a lot of people who decided to empty their wallets and do everything online who completed their transaction while the injunction was in effect, but then before the transaction was finished, meaning you had it in hand, the stay was placed. Now, there were some different things that happened here versus the original Freedom Week. Now, in the original Freedom Week, anybody who had made an order was allowed to complete that order, meaning that things were allowed to come into the state as long as you had made that purchase while the injunction was in place because Judge Bonitz kind of wrote that into his own stay. So, he said that anything that you purchased, anything that you acquired, anything that you have is allowed to remain under the injunction while I place a stay on everything else and the law basically goes back into effect. He did that under Duncan v. Bon. So, basically, Judge Bonitz had a little bit more control in how this stay was put into effect. And you know, that's again why people say that they have their Freedom Week stuff. Right? In this instance, the ninth circuit motions panel just basically cut everything off with no explanation and no clarification as to what's happening with those current orders or what to do about those current orders. And so, that's where a lot of the confusion has come in because we had clarification under Judge Bonitz, people knew what to expect. Under the ninth circuit, there has been no clarification. And hopefully, one of these groups, maybe the CRPA or FBC or somebody else can ask the ninth circuit for clarification on this matter. Now, until then, there's going to be a little bit of confusion. We have to kind of go off of what the retailer is telling us. I know for a fact there's some people out there that say that some of their orders have been canceled. These are orders that were made while the injunction was in place, and their orders still got canceled. That's up to the retailer themselves. They determine that maybe they just don't want to deal with it. They're too confused by everything that's going on. They didn't completely understand the stay, and so they decided to cancel it. I think that's absolutely terrible. I think that's the wrong direction and the wrong way to do things, but that's the way that they decided it. However, I also know that there were several people who got their orders in on time, the stay hit on the 5th, and then since the transaction had already been completed, a lot of those were either A) in transit, so they're already being shipped, and then B) they hadn't been shipped yet, but the online place is still going to ship it even though the stay was there prior to it being shipped. So, there's two different camps. There's the camp that canceled, and the camp that says, "Hey look, the transaction was made while it was perfectly legal, we're just going to continue on with this." So, you have to kind of go with whoever you went with online to see what their policy is and if they change their policy or their procedure at all once this day took effect. So again, it depends who you went through.

Now, some of the questions have been, "Am I still able to receive it?" Well, you have to understand there's kind of a chain of custody here, right? And I'm not a lawyer, please don't consider this legal advice, I'm just telling you guys what I am seeing happening out there. But there is a chain of custody that means that if you created a transaction while the injunction was in place, and it's since with UPS, FedEx, or some other shipper, that custody is now neither with the original person that you had it with or yourself, right? So, it is with the person that's bringing it in. And from what I understand, everybody's bringing it in and they're allowing it to go to its final destination, which is your hands directly, right? Again, because there's no clarification from the ninth on that, it seems like the transaction should be just fine. And so, it doesn't seem like anybody who has an order that is currently on its way should have any problems whatsoever.

Now, will there be a problem with those people that had orders that hadn't shipped until after the stay? It doesn't look like it. It doesn't look like they're trying to make criminals out of people here who simply took advantage of something that was perfectly legal at the time. However, that does kind of leave a gray area because again, once the stay was placed on the injunction, that meant that importation and things like that all go back into effect and therefore, if you import something afterward, you could be entering that legal gray area, and it's in that case that you may want to talk to either the seller or maybe even just an attorney who could answer that question for you because once you receive it and if you're in that gray area, you could potentially have a little bit of a problem. But again, that just depends on whether or not they plan on enforcing any of that. But again, when it comes to chain of custody, if it's already out of their hands and it's headed to your hands, you should be perfectly fine.

Now, I should also mention just in case you haven't checked since that stay took effect, that means everything is back to the way that it was before. Since this new law took effect and the backgrounds and everything else in 2019, everything is as it was back then. So, it would have to go to a vendor, it would have to go to somebody else, it couldn't just go directly to you. So, I found out recently that there's actually some companies that have just completely stopped working in California altogether. They just won't ship there, they want nothing to do with it, they've moved away. I made a post about it recently on Instagram, you guys can head over there, it's at The Daily Shooter, but you can check that out. And there's some companies that just have, they've lost interest in dealing with all of the red tape and all the BS that happens in that state, and so they've essentially moved on. But these other companies will still ship in, it'll just have to go to or through the appropriate channels. So again, as of right now, it's exactly as it was before. Until we hear from that merits panel, we don't know which way this is going to go. There are some judges on there that are a little bit more friendly to our cause than others, and hopefully those are the judges that are going to end up on the merit panel. We did have one dissenting judge from the Motions panel who said that they would have not voted for the stay or they did not vote for the stay. It was just two of the three judges that voted for that stay. So again, there is a little bit of a glimmer of hope that we could see the injunction put back in place. If that happens, that would basically mean that the injunction remains in effect until we see some type of resolution, and things would go back to normal, and it would be just more freedom in the state of California, like they deserve in that state. I see some people kind of talk down about Californians and their want to have their freedom back, and people just have kind of written them off. I would suggest that you not do that. You'd be surprised how many people in the state of California are good, standup people who believe in the Constitution and people's rights, and I believe that those people in California would definitely stand up for you if something happened in your state. And remember, what happens in California tends to find a way to move east, so if it happens there, it could definitely happen in other places. So, I just wanted to make you aware of that, maybe answer some questions to whatever effect that I could, even though things are still vague right now, they're still in motion, and we're still seeing a lot of changes. But again, I wanted to bring you the information that I did know, let you know that things are kind of in limbo as far as the merits panel goes and most of the orders or the transactions that were made while the injunction were in effect are still good to go. So anyway, I want to thank you very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. If you haven't done so already, please hit that like and that subscribe button and that little bell notification to let you know when new videos come out, and you guys have a great day.

After an injunction and immediate "stay" by Federal District Court Judge Roger Benitez California appealed to continue the stay. Since then the case of Miller v Bonta has been in the hands of the 9th Circuit. This case which has seen delay after delay is set for oral arguments and California has filed its reply brief.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So today, I've got an update for you in one of the most infamous cases that we really have going on right now in the entire Western portion of this country, which is Miller v. Bon, the case that challenges California's ban on so-called assault weapons. This case has been going on for years now. We've seen multiple injunctions, multiple appeals, multiple stays, and it currently sits before the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. We've been waiting on movement in this case since a little bit late last year, and today we have that movement. So let's talk about what's going on.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here. One thing I find interesting, especially with these huge cases like Miller, like Duncan, is that when you have to wait two or three months for something to happen, it could feel like two or three years. And that's when people start to write and say, "Hey, have you heard anything new? I keep checking and I don't see anything new happening with Miller." Well, one thing you have to remember is that the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is very good at delaying things, pushing things out as long as possible so that they don't have to deal with it. I mean, they've pretty much become the experts at that. As a matter of fact, oral arguments were supposed to be heard in Miller in December, and now here we are in January, and you know that that's how they do things, right? They'll continue to push them out, so delays just continue to happen.

Now, with that being said, we have an update on a very important date that's coming up just at the end of next week on January 24th, 2024. And that is that we finally get oral arguments in front of the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in Miller v. Bon. But the important update is that we now have the reply brief from the state of California, which sort of outlines their argument as to why they feel like this ban should be held up. And their arguments are as far out there as you could possibly imagine. This should be a slam dunk if it was pretty much any other court that valued the rule of law or valued the Constitution. This would be an absolute slam dunk. But since we're dealing with the ninth circuit, you just never know which way it's going to go. The ninth circuit 99% of the time sides with California.

Now, I should note that these oral arguments pertain to Judge BZ's injunction. If you remember, he placed an injunction against enforcement of that law, but he placed a stay on his own injunction until California had time to appeal that injunction. So these oral arguments have to do with Judge Bona's injunction and whether or not the ninth circuit is going to extend the stay or they're going to allow the injunction to actually take effect. So that's what these oral arguments are about. I just wanted to clarify that because this is why it's so important. If the ninth circuit actually does decide that they're going to allow the injunction to take effect, then it's freedom back in California, right? That would be massive. But obviously, we know that we're fighting an uphill battle here, and so it's possible that they could decide to extend the stay, well, really permanently until the end of the case. So that's why this is so important.

So let's go and take a look at their reply brief real quick so you guys can see their argument. Now, before I even read the entire brief, which I did a couple of times just to kind of understand where they're coming from, this table of contents just had me. It says, "Two, California's restrictions on challenge categories are consistent with this nation's historical tradition." Now, I'm not a historian or an attorney. I don't know how many of you out there are attorneys or historians, but even I know that that is an absolutely false statement. And they kind of admit that they might be wrong here just in looking at their own example. They admit they might be wrong where it says, "Even if the Second Amendment presumptively protects these quote-unquote 'assault weapons,' a more nuanced approach would apply." And then, "California's restrictions are consistent with this historical tradition of regulating especially dangerous weapons."

Okay, so what we're going to do is we're going to scroll down to one of their arguments, an argument that the plaintiffs can expect to hear when they have their oral arguments on the 24th. So this is kind of like a study document for the plaintiffs here. But it says, "Arms. California does not believe that these are arms. They do not believe that they are protected by the Constitution." And so this is their argument for that, and it's just so wild and so out there. So it says here, "At each step of their analysis, plaintiffs advance broad arguments about quote-unquote 'assault weapons' generally, instead of addressing the particular characteristics of each separate category of weapon challenged in their complaint." So again, this is where California, in the past, brings up characteristics, not the overall function or what it does or how similar it is to something else that doesn't have a specific feature that California doesn't like. You know, which changes absolutely nothing about it, but that's where they bring up the characteristics again.

Now it says, "They begin by asserting that there can be no question whatsoever that the firearms banned by California are arms. And just based on the definition of arms back in 1791 when the Second Amendment was ratified, you and I know that to be true. They are arms and should be protected, no doubt. Semi-automatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns generally constitute bearable offensive weapons. But plaintiffs' broad assertion fails to account for the differences between the specific categories prohibited by California and particularly the fact that some categories prohibit only the use of the accessory that can easily be added to or removed from the weapon." As a matter of text and history, there is a clear distinction between arms and accoutrements. So California's kind of backed into a corner here, and what I find is that they're contradicting themselves.

So in one instance, they're saying that these things aren't protected by the Constitution because they're more apt for military service, right? So they're not supposed to be for the average citizen, therefore, they're not protected by the Constitution, even though I find that to be absolutely ridiculous as well. But they're citing Supreme Court precedent, the NFA, and stuff like that to say that if there's something that is for the military, then the common civilian shouldn't be allowed to have it. And then, on the other hand, they're saying that they're not actually banning anything, right? They're not banning the arm itself because really what they're banning are the use of the accessories. That's what they're going after. And so, are you banning it, or are you not? Are you just going after the, as you call it, accoutrements, or are you going after the arm itself? Because in two different arguments, you kind of say two different things. Which one is it? You don't even have a clear understanding of what your own law is.

So this is what we have to look forward to January 24th, end of next week. We're looking at oral arguments in this case. We now have California's arguments. We know that California is kind of grasping for straws here, but the plaintiffs are still going to have to have some type of response for what California says. Now, the ninth circuit is going to, obviously, they're going to take whatever time they need. I don't know if they have a specific timeline to decide whether or not to grant or uphold the injunction that was put in place by Judge BZ or to grant California's request for an extended stay. I don't know what's going to happen and how long that's going to take, but at least now the ball is rolling. Oral arguments will be finished, and it's in the hands of the ninth circuit after that. And we're just going to have to wait to see what they come up with.

Now, like I said, they're kind of in the back pocket of California. We know that things don't always look really good. I don't think that the judges that are going to be on this panel are very friendly to us. So that's going to be another negative as well. But we'll see what happens, and I will keep you guys up to date as to any of the changes that happen in this case because, again, in my opinion, between Duncan and Miller, these are two of the most important cases in the western part of the country right now. Because being under the ninth circuit, this would have a direct effect on Oregon. It would have an effect on Washington. I mean, this would have an effect on everything under the jurisdiction of the ninth circuit, and a lot of these West Coast states are the ones that have these same or similar bans. So this would have a really big effect if we end up getting the win in the end on this one. I think it's going to go back up to the Supreme Court. But we'll see what happens, and again, I'll keep you guys up to date. I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.

The stay placed on an injunction baring enforcement of the "sensitive locations" aspect of Californias SB2 has been dissolved. The 9th circuit court of appeals merits panel has not only dissolved the administrative stay but it also denied a stay moving forward, allowing the injunction to be in full effect.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So, huge breaking news out of the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. I was out in the desert today testing out some new PewDie pews for review. When I got home, I saw this massive news: the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned the stay, the administrative stay that was stopping the injunction on sensitive places. So, the stay is gone, the injunction is in. Let's talk about it.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here because this is a pretty big deal. You don't usually get good news from the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals like this when it comes to Second Amendment-related cases. But if you remember back in December, a federal district court judge, Judge Carney, placed an injunction against enforcement of a majority of the sensitive locations that are listed in SB2. SB2 is California's bruneian response bill. It basically banned carrying just about everywhere in the state of California and also added a bunch of other regulations, rules, and fees. With that injunction, it meant that the status quo can remain in effect. That means that people who were carrying in the same place as before would be able to remain carrying in those same places after the New Year.

The ninth Circuit Court of Appeals motion panel placed an administrative stay against that injunction, meaning that all of those new sensitive places in SB2 would actually go into effect January 1st, and they did. Now, they sent it down to the motions panel, panel sent it down to a merits panel. Now, that merits panel is the one that just overturned that administrative stay and denied California's motion for a stay pending appeal. So basically, the stay is gone, they denied the stay, they overturned the administrative stay. Judge Carney's injunction is now in full effect. That means that if you were able to carry somewhere prior to January 1st, you can carry there again today.

Okay, so let's go and take a look at the court filing right here. Now, this is just filed today, January 6, 2024, and it is in the case of Carolo v. Bon, which is the FPC case, and May v. Bon. Now, we're going to go ahead and just push right to page two to the part that I think is most relevant where it says the administrative stay previously entered gives a docket number is dissolved. So the previous administrative stay is gone. The emergency motion under circuit rule 27-3 for a stay pending appeal and for an interim administrative stay is denied. That's it. The stays are gone. The stays are over pending further order of the Court. Appell's motion for reconsideration or clarification of the Court's order of December 30th, 2023, is denied as moot. The existing brief schedules remain in effect.

Now, we can get into all the legal mumbo-jumbo, talk about the where, the why, and the when, but I don't think anybody really cares about that. I think what people care about is that now they can go and they can leave their house and they can go about their daily life and their business and carry like normal, you know, the way that they should be able to carry without having to see a sign in a window or avoid a specific sidewalk or avoid a specific parking lot or not being able to go into a restaurant because that restaurant just happens to serve some type of alcohol. I mean, that's the whole point of getting your permit was so that you could protect yourself once you leave the home.

But the way that California had it was the moment you left your home, you had to, again, disarm yourself pretty much anywhere else that you went. So it is fantastic to see that the injunction is now in place. It is barring enforcement of the sensitive locations aspect of SB2. Again, that's fantastic. The case continues. That's why they said that there's still some dates to come and, you know, the remaining schedule remains the same following this because the case is still yet to come. It's just that California asked for an emergency stay. They granted them an administrative stay, and then the merits panel was supposed to decide whether or not to actually grant or deny that administrative or the emergency stay. Either way, the stay was denied. Administrative stay was denied. A stay pending appeal, a stay for the rest of the freaking case was denied. So basically, we have an injunction that's going to hold up now until this case is over or something else crazy happens and the ninth circuit plays some more games.

But I think that's fantastic news, so the merits panel has sided with us, and we move on from here, hopefully to completely overturn SB2. Obviously, right now, they're kind of hyper-focused. The FPC and these other cases are kind of hyper-focused on getting rid of the sensitive locations first, and then after that, obviously, the rest of the bill can be contended with because there's a lot going on with SB2. It was a pretty big bill and a very broad bill as well. But I just wanted to share that good news with you. If you're somebody who had a permit in California or you were somebody who was maybe going through the permit process or you were somebody who is up for renewal, just know that your permit is now good to go. It's your permit's good.

I know it's just kind of flying off the cuff here a little bit, but I'm kind of excited. I was not expecting this, to be honest with you. I don't think a lot of other people were either, so that is the breaking news for your Saturday. I want to thank you all very much for watching. If you haven't done so already, please hit that subscribe button, that little bell notification, and a thumbs up as always appreciated. Have a good one.

With only days left before Illinois and their registration time period ends for PICA, we take a look at the compliance data to see where we stand with just a few days left. Is it still mass noncompliance or have people begun to register?

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So, it's time to check back in on Illinois. We're just days away now from the close of the registration period for the so-called Protect Illinois Communities Act. Up until this point, it has been mass non-compliant. The number of people who have actually registered and the number of things registered versus the numbers that we think are actually in the state have been absolutely minuscule. It's been really incredible to watch. So, we're going to check back in today, see what the numbers look like again just days away from registration closing. So, let's get to it.

I want to start off today's video by just saying thank you all so much for 10 and a half years of support. We just hit 500,000 subscribers, which is an incredible milestone. Obviously, couldn't have done any of it without you guys supporting 2A news and reviews for this long length of time. It's been an incredible roller coaster, and I love having you guys with me. I do not take this for granted. So again, I just wanted to say thank you all very much for the support.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here. We'll take a look at the data in just a second, but I have been making videos about this now for the past six or seven weeks, and it has been really impressive to see how many people have just decided to say, "Look, I'm not going to comply. I am not going to follow unconstitutional laws," and have chosen not to register. Now, under the so-called Protect Illinois Communities Act, there are several different things that the state of Illinois is requiring people to register before December 31st of 2023—those items include certain firearms, ammunition, accessories, and so forth.

Now, there are over 2.4 million FOID card holders in the state of Illinois (that's your Firearm Owner Identification Card). Given the fact that it's a very broad bill, it's very wide-ranging, and the number of things that need to be registered is so huge, you would expect that a majority of those FOID card holders would have something that would need to be registered. So, the number of people that should have registered by now should at least be in the hundreds of thousands, if not 1 million plus. I mean, if you just consider that only half of the FOID card holders have at least one of these items, you'd be looking at 1.2 million people registering, right?

Well, when I made my first video about this nearly seven weeks ago, I think it was only like 6,000 people. So, what do the numbers look like now today, again just days before the close of registration? Well, just take a look at the data directly from the Illinois state government. So, we could see the numbers right here. It says the "Protect Illinois's Communities Act Statistics Number of individuals completing a disclosure," and that's up until today, December 27th. We have a total of 15,164. Now, that's quite a few people, but in the grand scheme of things, that is virtually nothing. Total disclosures now, like I said before, there are certain things that need to be registered or that the state is requiring people to register. It's not just one thing, so somebody could have multiples, right? So, we have 15,164 people with a total disclosure number of 51,978.

Now, again, that does seem like a much bigger number, but it's still in the grand scheme of things extremely small. So, it breaks it down for us here. We have firearms disclosures at 3,365, accessory disclosures at 18,632, and ammunition disclosures at 281. Okay, so let's just break that down into percentages. Okay, so we have 15,164 people that have gone through the registration process or have completed the process up until this point. Now, if we just say that all 2.4 million FOID card holders have something that needs to be registered, then you're looking at less than 1% of the people who need to register something have actually done it. It's actually 6/10 of 1%, so 0.6% have actually registered.

Now, obviously, that doesn't seem like a very realistic number. So, let's cut that in half. Let's say 1.2 million, right? You're only looking at 1.2% total compliance if we cut that FOID card number completely in half. So again, 1.2 million, 15,164, that is 1.2% compliance, just over 1% compliance, which is incredible to me. Now, let's just cut it down even more. Let's just say for argument's sake that we cut that down another 50% and say that out of the 2.4 million FOID card holders in the state, only 600,000 of those actually have something that needs to be registered. Well, if we cut it down that far, we're still barely over 2%, under 2 and a half%. It comes out to 2.4%. If the number is only 600,000 out of that 2.4 million, so even as we break down the statistics to try and make it work better for them, right, for the state, for the governor, for everybody who wanted this to work, even if we break it down all that far, and we can keep going by 50% and cut it down even further, but just looking at a statistical anomaly of 600,000, which I think the number would actually be higher than that, but if we took a look at 600,000, and we're still only at 2%, which means that mass non-compliance is still happening in the state of Illinois. And again, that's with the clock ticking down. I mean, we are just about at midnight here with just a couple more full days to go.

Now, just based on the text of the Second Amendment alone, without even needing to go into any historical analogues or traditions, we can see that this is unconstitutional. But we haven't gotten any help from the courts. We haven't gotten any help with the district court level, no help at the appellate court level. We didn't get any help at the Supreme Court. I mean, there has been no help for the people of Illinois. So, this law, this PLaw, is set to take effect, and it's going to be in full effect, and registration is going to be closed in just a matter of days. So again, without any help from the court system, I'm not really sure where to go from here, other than a full petition to the entire Supreme Court to try and get this thing overturned. It's going to take full effect. It's the registration is going to be closed. We already know that that's going to happen because the Seventh Circuit basically said that these things are not protected by the Second Amendment. It allowed the state to continue pushing these unconstitutional laws. The only way to override that is going to be the Supreme Court or some type of decision in California or New York or Washington or any of these other states that have lawsuits moving forward as well to combat what is happening in their state that's very similar to what's going on in Illinois.

Now, one thing I could tell you from experience, if you live in Illinois, these 2A rights groups don't just give up because they didn't get a preliminary injunction. They didn't get their injunction. They don't just simply roll over, and that's the end of that. They will take this all the way to the Supreme Court. They will take it to the highest court in the land. We've seen where the court stands on this issue, whether or not they want to take this issue up. That's probably going to be our biggest challenge, especially with multiple lawsuits across the country. There could be one that they prefer over another. But the thing is, this is not over. Okay, so even though it seems all doom and gloom, and it's going to take effect, and there's going to be all these restrictions, constitutional restrictions on your rights, it's not the end. And you have to try and keep your chin up and keep up the fight.

So, I just wanted to give you guys that data, those stats. They kind of make me feel good that people still believe in the rule of law and people are still willing to fight back against unconstitutional tyranny, which is exactly what it is. And people of Illinois are doing that right now. And in my opinion, again, I think that's phenomenal. So anyway, I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe, and you guys have a great day.

The California AG Rob Bonta and the Ca DOJ have filed an "emergency rule" that would nearly eliminate instructors who would be certified to provide instruction for the new law starting January 1st, SB2.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So, I honestly can and can't believe that it's about to get worse for the good people of California who wish to partake in their second amendment rights. I'm starting to think that there's got to be a building somewhere with a floor full of people in it whose sole purpose it is to come up with new ways to infringe on people's constitutional rights in that state, because this happens far too often for that not to be the case.

Regardless, we're talking about a new proposed rule by the California attorney general and the Department of Justice that's going to make it even more difficult for you to get your carry permit in that state. This is all due to SB2, which is set to take effect on January 1st, 2024. SB2 on its own is already a bad bill; it makes it nearly impossible to even get your permit and extremely costly. And if you do actually get your permit, well, you still can't carry just about anywhere because, well, everything's considered a sensitive place. Again, this new proposed rule makes that even worse.

Now, before we talk about this new proposed rule and what it does, if you think the California politicians have absolutely lost their minds when it comes to infringing on your constitutional rights, hit that subscribe button, hit that like button, and let's talk about this new rule.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here because this is pretty sneaky. I mean, this is like a backdoor way of imposing even more gun control on the people of California but by avoiding the legislature altogether.

So, as I'm sure you're aware, in California, as in many other states, you have to undergo some type of classroom training as well as live fire training in order to complete the application process. Now in California, there are quite a few certified CCW instructors, but because California is so big and there are so many people there, depending on what county you live in, I mean, you could be looking at a four to six-week wait just to get that appointment. So as it stands right now, it can be pretty bad in some counties. Well, California's made it abundantly clear that they don't want you to get that permit. Once you have the permit, they don't want you to use it; it's just that their hand is being forced by the Supreme Court.

So what did the attorney general and the Department of Justice decide to do? Well, they decided to rewrite the criteria, the requirements for those people that are providing that CCW instruction, and they have made it so stringent now that you're probably looking at maybe a loss of around 80% of all instructors in the state of California, meaning that there's not going to be anybody left to provide CCW instruction in that state.

So let's go ahead and take a look at the document. I'll show you what I'm talking about.

Okay, so here's a look at the new application that certified instructors will have to fill out. And before we dive into how this is going to basically cut off just about everybody, I should mention that the comment period for this new rule is open right now and it's going to remain open until later on tomorrow. So you have a very little time to leave a comment, but I will put a link down below to where you can comment on this proposed rule here.

So the top part of this looks pretty much normal, right? It's not until we get down to those three little checkboxes right there that you realize that, well, pretty much nobody is going to be properly certified under this new rule.

So we'll take a look and read this here. It says, "Pursuant to penal code section 26165 subdivision A4 and California code of regulations Title 11 section 4410, a carry concealed weapon (CCW) Department of Justice (DOJ) certified instructor applicant must be certified by one of the following entities:"

Bureau of security and Investigative Services Department of Consumer Affairs State of California firearm training instructor

Commission on peace officer standards and training State of California firearm instructor or range master and authorization from a state of California accredited school to teach firearms training courses

Now, one thing to consider here is that in the past, people that are certified instructors for USCA or NRA certified instructors would all qualify to become CCW instructors in the state of California. Those people would all be good, and there's quite a few of those up and down the state, and a lot of people rely on them for good quality instruction. That's where a lot of people went. As a matter of fact, I even went to one when I was there. So those people are not on this list right here. That's not one of these three checkboxes that you see.

The first checkbox says, "Bureau of security and Investigative Services Department of Consumer Affairs State of California firearm training instructor." So the person wanting to provide instruction is going to have to check that box if they want to provide instruction. If they don't have one of those three licenses, they're now no longer allowed to teach people the CCW courses that are going to be taking effect January 1st, 2024.

Now with a state that has a population like California, what do you think that's going to do to the state when you wipe away that many people that were previously certified instructors and tell them that they can no longer provide that service for people to get that permit? I mean, what do you think is going to happen? Well, there's going to be a massive shortage, and that means that, number one, there may not even be anybody left in your county that would be able to provide that service to you. Counties are some bigger, some smaller; LA County is massive, Ventura County's a little bit smaller, and different counties throughout the state change in size and population. So, in some counties, it's very plausible that there may not be any more instructors left that meet those three little checkboxes right there because if you don't have a certification from one of those three agencies, which is one of those or two of those are actually like law enforcement agencies, but if you don't have instruction from those, forget it, you can't provide that service anymore. And that's going to cause a lot of problems.

It's going to cause people to just outright completely not be able to get their permit at all because they're not going to be able to finish the application process. And then two, it's going to make it so difficult to find anybody that you may have to drive forever to be able to go and do that. The wait times are going to go sky-high through the roof. I mean, you're probably looking at, I can't even imagine what the wait times are going to be. They're just going to be long. And because of just simple economics and supply and demand with a small supply and massive demand, you're going to see prices skyrocket. And remember, with SB2, all of these different things you have to do in order to get your permit there, you have to pay for all of them. All that stuff is coming out of your pocket. And in some counties right now in the state of California, I mean, you're looking at $1,000 plus just to get your permit right, again, the permit that you're still not going to be able to barely use once you leave the house because of all of these so-called restricted areas, safe spaces, whatever you want to call them. It's all ridiculous. And this is the new proposed rule.

So what they're doing is they're saying, "Hey, you know what? We don't want you to have a permit, so we're going to completely limit the inventory of people who can certify you to get one. And without that certification, you can't finish your application. Sorry, you're out of luck." That's what the DOJ and the Attorney General have come up with in that state, again, completely avoiding the legislature altogether.

Now I should mention, that's not the end of it right there. That's just the requirement to be the classroom instructor. If you're somebody who wants to do the live fire training, then you have six different options. And some of these options are almost impossible because you'd have to, one, being the military or other options like law enforcement and stuff. It's very difficult to be able to qualify as somebody who does that instruction. But let's take a look at the six here.

Bureau of security and Investigative Services Department of Consumer Affairs State of California

Federal government certified range master or instructor

Federal Law Enforcement Training Center firearm instructor or program training program a range Master

United States military occupational specialty (MOS) as a Marksmanship or instructor

Commission on peace officer standards and training State of California and authorization from a state California accredited school

Now here's the thing that really gets me. Okay, this is a proposed emergency rule. They're doing this at the last minute because they have only about a little over two weeks until January 1st when SP SB2 takes full effect. And so here they are middle of December scrambling to get something done. And so they proposed this emergency rule to do that. Did they have to do an emergency rule? Of course not. They could have done this through the normal channels because this has been signed by the governor, passed, and then signed by the governor for months now. They had plenty of time to come up with all the different nuances and procedures and things like this and taken the normal steps to do so. But they chose not to. And so here we are mid-December with this emergency rule that people had only days to comment on, which is again going to finish up tomorrow. But they just basically waited till the last minute so they could use that emergency rule-making procedure and just kind of shove it down people's throats.

So we'll see what happens. I mean, it's a fairly good chance regardless of what comment you leave, it's still going to happen. But this is going to make SB2 even just that much worse. And I wanted to make you guys aware of it so that maybe you have a chance to leave a comment. I just want to let you know if you do leave comments and you leave nasty language and stuff like that, they're just going to freaking delete it anyway. So be constructive, right? That's what I would do. I would be as constructive as possible, but also at the same time, let them know how you feel. Just watch the way that you word it because you want them to actually read it. I don't know if they actually read it or not. I don't even know why I'm saying that. They probably just throw them all away. It's the state of California. They don't care anyway. Again, I just wanted to let you know about that. Thank you all very much for watching. I do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.

Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett has decided to hear briefs in the case of Bevis v. Naperville. This case challenges a ban on so called "assault weapons". If Barrett grants the emergency injunction in this case it would send a loud message to the lower courts hearing similar cases.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So contrary to everything you've been hearing lately about rifle bands, mag bands, and even carry bands, we live in some pretty exciting times right now post-Bruan where the Supreme Court has told the lower courts how they are supposed to evaluate and review Second Amendment cases. That's spurred on a lot of new lawsuits and it's also helped some lawsuits that were kind of stalled out at the appellant level.

Now, one of these cases that has kind of been helped out by the Bruan decision is the case of Beis v. Aille out of Illinois, which is challenging the assault weapons ban in that county. Well, it looks like Judge Amy Coney Barrett might actually hear this one, so a Supreme Court Justice might be taking on the first so-called assault weapons ban case. Let's talk about it.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here and why this is so important. As I'm sure you're aware, there's quite a few lawsuits that are very similar to this lawsuit that Amy Coney Barrett has decided that she is going to be hearing briefs on. We have lawsuits in California, in Washington, in New York, in Illinois obviously, and so many other states. This gives us some insight as to how the Supreme Court might view these cases again post-Bruan.

To my knowledge, the Supreme Court, to this date, has not heard any arguments regarding any of the state so-called assault weapons bans. So, this is actually a very big deal that we have a Supreme Court Justice now who has decided that she is going to be hearing briefs in this case because again, it signals what the Supreme Court might decide should one of these cases make it all the way to a full court.

So, let's say the California case, which is currently sitting in front of the ninth circuit. I have a good feeling that that's going to be heading up to the Supreme Court, and if the Supreme Court decides to actually take that case on, this decision by Amy Coney Barrett down the road might give us some insight as to how they would view that case later on.

Now, it's again, it's only one justice, but it's a majority conservative court at the moment. So, it would give us a little bit of insight as to how maybe the rest of the conservative judges on that panel would act. One thing I want to point out is that the plaintiffs aren't asking the Justice to overturn the law altogether. They're asking for an emergency injunction, and if that injunction was granted, it would bar enforcement of that law. The law would still exist but it would be unenforceable while this case moves forward.

By granting that, the Justice is basically saying that she believes that the plaintiffs have a likelihood of success on the merits. So, again, it would give us a clear indication of where she stands, and that indication would be heard nationwide. I guarantee you that every single appellate court and every single state in this country that has a similar ban would be paying very close attention to it, and so that might have an effect on all of these other cases moving forward.

So, definitely keep that in mind while this deals with Illinois and Aille, the Supreme Court, when they speak, it has effects nationwide. Just like Bruan was a case out of New York and it dealt specifically with New York, but after Bruan came out, it changed the Second Amendment landscape in this country forever. So, when the Supreme Court speaks, it carries weight across the entire country.

So again, while this deals just with Illinois and Aille, we're talking about an entire country that could see repercussions from any type of Supreme Court decision. Let's keep our fingers crossed here that she can see through all the lies and the deceit of those people who would like to push these unconstitutional laws and sees that the plaintiffs do have a likelihood of success here and that the Constitution and our Second Amendment rights are clearly being violated by what they're doing in Illinois and Aille.

So, we're going to keep a close watch on this one. I'm very curious what the outcome will be because as far as these other states go, I mean, we're just waiting on a break like this. So again, we'll pay close attention to it. If there's any movement, she comes out with a decision or an order, I will let you guys know. But it would be great at least just to get the injunction against what Illinois is doing right now. So I wanted to share that with you guys, and I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.

The lawsuit challenging Californias Ban on LCM's aka "Standard Cap" magazines just hit a setback at the 9th Circuit with nearly two dozen states writing a brief in support of the states ban. The case in question is "Duncan v. Bonta" also "Duncan v. Becerra"

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So you guys are not going to believe this one; you're definitely going to want to stick around for this. Today, we're talking about a setback in Duncan v. Bont, which is a case challenging California's ban on magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds, commonly known as LCMs (large-capacity magazines). This case has already been found unconstitutional twice at the district court level in front of Judge Roger Bedz, and now, for the second time, it sits in front of the Circuit Court of Appeals.

Well, it turns out that we have 20 states out there, 19 states plus the District of Columbia, that have written a brief to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. They are telling them that these LCMs are not protected by the Constitution, and the Ninth Circuit should uphold California's ban. The states that wrote this letter might actually surprise you. One of the states that wrote to the Ninth Circuit, saying that this ban is okay and not protected by the Constitution, is Arizona. Let's go ahead and talk about the rest and what they said because their argument is unbelievable. But I can almost guarantee you that the Ninth Circuit is going to pay attention to it.

Hey, real quick before we get this video started, I just want to say thank you to everybody for watching. I really do appreciate all the support. We are on our final push to 500,000; we're getting really close. So if you're watching this and you're not subscribed yet, it's free, it only takes a second. Hit that subscribe button, share this with your friends because people need to know what's going on out there, and a like button is always appreciated. So with that being said, let's talk about what's going on here.

Okay, so let's go ahead and talk about what's going on here with Duncan v. Bont. Like I said in the beginning, 19 states plus the District of Columbia have written a brief to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, telling them that they need to uphold the ban on those LCMs. They said that they need to uphold the ban for several different reasons, and we'll get into those reasons. But let me go ahead and first tell you what these states are, the names of these states that wrote this brief, and again, some of them might surprise you.

Here's a list of states that submitted the brief: Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin. In support of appellant and reversal, and what they're talking about is the reversal of Judge Bedz's injunction against this law.

Now you might notice there on that list, there are several states that do not have capacity bans in them currently. So if you heard that state, you know somebody who lives in that state, or you want to share this video so that people know about this, these are states who are calling for California to keep their ban. So I would be a little bit nervous and expect that a ban might be coming to some of these states fairly soon.

But what are they using to justify this brief? What are they saying that allows California to keep this ban? Well, let's read the table of contents real quick, and it'll tell us a little bit of something here.

They're writing this to promote our resident safety and well-being. States impose a range of restrictions, including prohibitions on dangerous accessories and weapons not commonly used for self-defense. Now, that's one part that you're going to hear a lot - not commonly used for self-defense. They added that last part, commonly used for self-defense. That is not what was said by the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court says that if they are in common use for lawful purposes, then they are protected by the Second Amendment. It doesn't have to do anything with self-defense. Just they have to be in common use for lawful purposes. But now they've added that, and they're trying to sell that as, you know, real to California's restrictions on magazine capacity comports with the Second Amendment.

The Second Amendment does not protect large-capacity magazines. Large-capacity magazines are not arms. So they're saying it right there - they're not protected because they are not arms, which we all know to be completely false. LCMs are not commonly used for self-defense. Again, there's another thing - they don't have to be commonly used for self-defense. They just have to be in common use for lawful purposes.

And then we have B: California's magazine capacity restrictions are analogous to the historical practices of regulating the storage of ammunition, imposing restrictions on new and distinctly dangerous forms of weaponry. Well, none of that has any relevance to storage versus banning a capacity. So I don't see how that's a historical analog whatsoever. This court should consider the full sweep of our nation's historical tradition of regulating arms. So basically, what they're saying here is that we somehow have a history of violating people's Second Amendment rights, and the court should consider that, which really isn't the case. We didn't really have any major regulations that hit until maybe the early 20th century. California's laws comport with our historical tradition, which again is just completely untrue.

So it says here in their interest of why they are submitting this brief to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. It says that all of the above-named states have compelling governmental interests in public safety and crime prevention. In furtherance of these interests and pursuant to Rule 29A2, we submit this brief to explain why California's limitation on the size of ammunition magazines that may be purchased and possessed within its borders is wholly consistent with the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.

Now, it continues on with a list of cases that are supposed to support their argument, but it says here in the summary of the argument: The Second Amendment is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. And then they cite the NYRPA Bruan case, recognizing that "reasonable firearms regulations can coexist comfortably with the Second Amendment." And then they quote McDonald, saying the states have adopted a variety of restrictions on weapons and accessories that are not in common use for self-defense. Again, they just threw that in there. Remember that. Try and keep that in mind. That is completely made up. That is not what the actual quote is.

This case concerns one such law. California prohibits the possession and sale of ammunition magazines capable of holding more than 10 rounds of ammunition, referred to as LCMs. And then it gives the penal code like similar laws around the country imposing restrictions on certain types of accessories, ammunition, and weapons themselves.

Misapplying the framework set forth in Bruan, the district court concluded that the plaintiff's appellees' Second Amendment challenge to this law is likely to succeed on the merits. Duncan v. Bont, the conclusion should be reversed. LCMs are not arms under the Second Amendment's plain text because they are neither commonly used nor used for self-defense. A historical understanding of the term arms did not encompass container accessories such as LCMs. Moreover, California's law is consistent with the nation's historical tradition of firearms regulation. Again, it quotes Bruan.

So keep in mind that all of those states that are on this list agree with what is in this letter, which states that they are not protected by the Second Amendment. They are not even considered arms, which we all know that they are just based on pure definition alone. So they're saying that they're not protected. Again, keep an eye on that list. If you see a state there that does not have a restriction as of yet, they don't believe that you have a right to them. So they believe that they can pretty much just take them away as they want because, well, they're not even considered arms.

So again, anybody that lives in the state might want to perk up your ears a little bit and check into this because, again, that's what your state, at least the government officials in your state, believe. And so that should be something that should be alarming to anybody like in the state of Arizona and others. To me, that's just kind of... it's very, very worrisome. Nonetheless, this is a big setback for Duncan. The reason is that the Ninth Circuit is looking to lean on anything that they can in order to strike down Bont's injunction and say that it is constitutional and that it should be upheld. They're looking for any excuse that they can have because we know from just past decisions from the Ninth Circuit that it's more about agenda and less about the rule of law and the Constitution. As long as they can find a way to somehow, even if it doesn't really make sense, validate their agenda, then they will do that.

Now guaranteed, if that happens, this is going to be going up to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court's going to have to hear this. These types of things are in other circuit courts across the country. And with differing opinions between district courts, appellate courts, and stuff like that post-Bruan, you can almost be guaranteed that the Supreme Court is going to take this up. And since they are in common use for lawful purposes, I think that we would get a win out of this out of the Supreme Court. So these states right here that feel like they might be helping California try and uphold their ban, it might end up working against them. Because yes, while it might delay it for a while till it does get up to the Supreme Court, in the end, if the Supreme Court rules on it, guess what? That would affect the entire country altogether. So it would basically nullify any ban in any state all across this country, just like what happened in Bruan with good cause or just cause. While it was a New York case, that decision in Bruan had a ripple effect across the entire country.

So they could be just, you know, they could be doing more harm than good by this. Nonetheless, this is what the Ninth Circuit needed to help them make their decision. So you can almost guarantee now what the Ninth Circuit is going to do with Duncan. And I wanted to make you guys aware of it because, again, it's unnerving that you have these states right, like California, which already has the most laws on the books in this area than any other state in the entire country. Yet, other states that don't have those same laws, a lot of them on that list are almost as bad as California, but not all of them. But they still feel like they need to tell California what laws they should uphold against the rights of their own citizens. So it is just absolutely out of control what's happening. I think what's happened is we've kind of backed the dog into a corner right now with Bruan. They know that they're losing; they know that things are being overturned. They know that they're not on the winning foot here; they're not on the winning side. And so while they're backed up, they're just getting a little bit frothy at the mouth. And this is what you get out of that. And again, I wanted to share that with you. So we'll see what happens. We're not going to know anything until next year. But we'll be paying close attention to Duncan, Miller, and any other case that is important across this country. Thank you all very much for watching; I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.

The California roster which until a recent injunction in Boland v. Bonta has essentially been frozen for years. Now with the injunction in place were seeing excellent new additions almost weekly. This is the biggest and best yet.

Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. Sorry I've been gone for so long. If you guys watched my last video, you'll know that the entire family came down with theonas at pretty much the exact same time, and it has been hanging on like a dingleberry in the wind. I mean, it just will not go away. Today is the first day where I feel like my voice is at least good enough to get back in front of the camera.

But there was something that happened while my voice was completely gone that I wanted to make a video about so bad. Finally, I get to make that video today, and it's very exciting because there has been a massive expansion of the California handgun roster. As you guys know, over the past few months, things have been kind of trickling in—some new things, some good things, some not so good things. A lot of the stuff that's been trickling in are things that people in California don't really want all that much, and every once in a while, you get one or two things that people actually do want.

But now there has been a huge new entry of things that are not only the new things that everybody else in the free states is getting, but these are things that Californians have actually been asking for. So it is very, very exciting to see this big new swath of things added to the roster, and I wanted to share that with you guys today. So let's get to it.

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Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here. I had heard about some of these being added to the roster months ago, but as you know, California, with their whole approval process, it takes quite a bit of time. There has to be an application, and that application has to go through California's own testing process, and there are fees that have to be paid. There's a lot that needs to happen in order for a company to get something on the roster and then get that thing approved. So once it's on the roster, that's great, but it could take months to actually get there.

Now, the things that we're going to be talking about today are things that, like I said before, people in California actually want. And in my opinion, I think that these are great additions as well. So let's go ahead and take a look at what was just added. Now, real quick, for those of you who are wondering how to look this up for yourself, it's very easy. All you have to do is simply Google the roster and recently added. Usually, the first link that pops up is to the California DOJ website, and you can click on that, and it'll show you everything that's been recently added so that you can look for yourself whenever you'd like. So let's go ahead and take a look at that list.

Now, on the list, we have several different manufacturers and some things that I think a lot of people are going to like. So we have the Springfield XDM Elite, we have the Hellcat Pro, obviously, we have the Anaconda. I don't see why that's a big surprise there. But we also have the Smith and Wesson M&P9 2.0 Compact, which is cool. We have the Kimber K6 XS Carry, the M&P Shield Plus, which is going to be the new Shield. In California, there used to be the original Shield on the roster. Yeah, the standard Hellcat, and then we have the M&P 9 2.0. And then obviously, based on the video that I made previously, the 365 still shows up as recently added. So that's eight different things that people actually want that popped up on the same day, and it covers a pretty wide variety from full size to subcompact, compact, kind of all of the different sizes in between. It seems like just about everything there is covered, which is fantastic.

And these are all very good options. I know that some people have different brand choices and stuff like that, but these are good solid options for people in the state of California who have been limited to things that are 25 years old and older previously because of microstamping. Microstamping kept everything off the roster because microstamping doesn't exist. So the case of Bona v. Bonta got an injunction placed against the roster and some of its components. One of those components that remains enjoined is going to be that microstamping requirement.

So without that requirement, you still need the LCM. You still need a couple of other things that need to be there that are different than what you might have in free states, but they're not deal-breaker things. I mean, they're kind of inconveniences, and some of them might be more than others. But for the most part, these are still very viable good options. I know people are asking, "When are we going to get Gen 5 G19, G17, and so forth?" That's the big one for me because I know that people absolutely love that brand. They've been stuck with the Gen 3s there in that state forever. And so people are wondering when the Gen 5s are going to hit the list.

And to be honest with you, I don't know. That's the only one that I can't seem to find out. But I think that's one of those things where we're just going to have to keep checking daily to see what gets added next. But I can tell you with California, the number of background checks that are run on a daily basis in that state, people in free states would be absolutely shocked at how much business is done in the state of California. I mean, it's a huge market. And so you have a lot of these big companies that are rushing in right now, trying to take advantage of that market.

And so as long as there is demand, you're going to have these bigger and bigger companies trying to get in there because they want a piece of that pie. And so since the demand stays high, then we're going to see more stuff get added to the roster. So that's kind of where things are right now. I think a lot of companies are trying to rush into the state with whatever they can at the moment while they're trying to work on other things that they can get in, you know, after they can get in the easier stuff, the things that are easy to add little parts and pieces to make them compliant for the state.

But yeah, we'll see what happens with the other brands, what they decide to do. But we have several big brands back in the state with the 365 and the compacts and everything else. I think that there are definitely a lot more better options available than there was six months ago. Even so, it's really exciting. I'm excited to check it. I check it pretty much constantly to see what else has been added. But that Bona made a huge difference in the state of California. Now, that case isn't over. There are other cases that are dealing with the roster as well. As a matter of fact, there are multiple cases at the ninth circuit level right now that deal with this pretty much exact same thing.

So there's a good chance that we could see this completely overturned, where we wouldn't need any of the little trinkets and things that California requires to be added to make it on the roster even be necessary. And without those, you could pretty much bring in whatever you want. It would take the roster from something that kind of puts a stranglehold on what people can have in California to something that's really just a list of what's available. And that's kind of the end game here. The end game is to get rid of the roster requirements altogether, which would be phenomenal. I think that we can actually make that happen.

I mean, there are some pretty big groups that are involved with these. Their lawyers have excellent arguments and post-Brown, there's no way to make a roster hold up. You can't go back in time from the founding of our country and the ratification of the Second Amendment to the Reconstruction Era and find anything like a roster. There's no way you're going to find that. So there's no historical analog that's going to back up that law. And I think that that, in itself, is going to be a big benefit to completely overturning the roster eventually.

So at least in the meantime right now, without that microstamping requirement, people in California are finally getting the new stuff. And it's exciting to report on good news. You know, a lot of people click on the stuff that's always the bad news, the big horrible thing that's happened. People like to click on that just to see what's going on. But every once in a while, man, there's good news, and we need to pay attention to the good news just like we do the bad news because this is something worth being excited about. Anyway, I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. I think I can start making videos on a daily basis again. You guys have a good one.

In the case of Britto v. ATF the judge has said that due to 5th circuit precedent and the facts at hand, the plaintiffs have a likelihood of success on the merits and therefore finds the ATF violated the APA and placed a nationwide block on the "Brace Rule"

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Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So, I'd love bringing you guys good news, and today is definitely one of those days. If you were somebody who was kind of upset because the FPC's lawsuit or the GOA's lawsuit, which got an injunction placed against enforcement of the brace rule, only applied to its members and the organization itself for the plaintiffs, well, guess what? Today is your day because a judge basically just struck down the brace rule, and now it's not enforceable against anyone. So, we have a nationwide block of the ATF's brace rule. Let's talk about what happened; it's awesome.

Okay, so let's go and talk about what's going on here because this is very exciting. It just broke late last night, and it's very good news. As I'm sure most of you are aware, there were multiple lawsuits that were filed against the ATF once they published their final rule on braces. Some challenged the final rule on Second Amendment grounds; others challenged it on procedural federal grounds. Now, the FPC and the GOA had already both won injunctions in their cases, which covered the members, but it didn't cover the entire country.

There was another case out there which we're talking about today, which is Brid VATF, and that was challenging the final rule on administrative grounds. So basically, saying that the ATF didn't follow the APA or the Administrative Procedures Act when they came out with their final rule. What they're saying is that the ATF came out with these proposed rules, then there was a comment period. Now, after the comment period, the final rule should be in line with the rule that people commented on, right? So, it should be fairly similar, so to speak. What the ATF did is they had a proposed rule people commented on it, and then the final rule that came out was completely different—no worksheets, none of that, and it was totally changed from what people had commented on. So again, they didn't follow the correct procedure when coming out with their final rule. And so, this judge says that basically makes this new rule illegal and completely unenforceable and for the entire country, not just for the plaintiffs, not just for any members or anything like that. And these plaintiffs are veterans; these are guys who served this country. But this is a case that affected everyone.

Now, I'm sure there are people out there who are going to say it's just going to be appealed, and that's probably true. But who's it going to get appealed to? This is a case out of Texas, which means it would be appealed back up to the fifth circuit, which has already weighed in on this issue. So, I don't think we have anything to worry about, even from the fifth circuit. And one of the interesting things here is that this District Court Judge, which basically overturned this law for the whole country, used the FPC's case when making his decision. So, here on page four, it says, "Recent precedent, this court does not begin with a blank slate as the parties have acknowledged the recent case of Mock V Garland, which is the FBC case, provides substantial guidance." There, a firearms advocacy group, individual brace pistol owners, and an accessories manufacturer and retailer brought action under the APA, challenging the same rule before the court. Now, on appeal, the fifth circuit held that the rule was not a logical outgrowth of the proposed rule.

So, the logical outgrowth meaning that it's somewhat in line with the proposed rule that people were allowed to comment on. The monumental error was prejudicial, and that it must be set aside as unlawful. That's a quote from Mock V Garland. So, you saw it right there, the judge's own words basically saying that the Mock V Garland case, which again was brought forth by the FPC and other plaintiffs, played a big role in the judge's decision-making because those cases have advanced further than this case. Because there have already been judges that have weighed in and granted injunctions and said that the plaintiffs have a likelihood of success on the merits. This judge agreed with those other judges and saw that the APA was not followed, and this is an illegitimate rule. And so, basically, the judge said, you know what? Then this rule should not apply to anybody and again overturned it for the entire country.

So, the bottom line here is that one violates our Second Amendment rights. We've seen that because these other cases, again, have challenged it on Second Amendment grounds. These other cases, including this case, have challenged it on procedural grounds, and it violates those procedures. So again, in multiple ways, this law or this rule, whatever they want to call it, it's a law because it affects people's freedoms, but this rule should not exist. And so, for everybody out there right now, as of at least the time I'm making this video, the brace rule is no longer in effect. At least, for the time being, we'll see what happens in the future, and I'll keep you guys updated. But that's some pretty good news for now.

So, I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.

There were two recent additions to the "roster" that had people in California pretty excited until they saw that the new additions cost "off roster" prices. It's outrageous what is happening and I would like to see companies stop taking advantage of Californians due to their lack of options.

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Hey everybody, how's it going? Welcome back to Copper Jacket TV. So today, we're going to be talking about a couple of new roster editions: the 365 and the 320 in the state of California. And even if you don't live in the state of California, you're going to want to watch this one because people in California, it feels like sometimes even when they win, they still lose. I mean, this is going to make your head spin. People in California are getting Rak over the coals for these, okay? So let's go and talk about what's going on here, and I've got to be honest with you guys, this is terrible. I mean, it's just absolutely terrible to see this happen. And I'm going to have to tiptoe around the way that I talk about this for obvious reasons. But let's just go ahead and get into it.

So if you live in the state of California, I'm sure that you're aware of what the roster is, right? It's a list of things that California has approved in that state, and it's a very short list. That short list has gotten smaller and smaller over the years, mostly due to micro-stamping. There was a micro-stamping provision that said something had to have a micro stamp in multiple locations in order for it to be approved for that list. Well, there was an injunction placed against the enforcement of that micro-stamping provision, and since that injunction is currently in place, there's a lot more things that have recently been added to the roster. And out of those things, two of them were the 320 and the 365. And so that's the good news, right? That's great news. People finally have a carry option and a full-size option that are well respected across the country and newer than what was on the roster, usually like 25 plus years old. So that's the good news.

Here's the bad news. I decided to go and check to see what these things would cost. And so I went to one of the more popular places, which was Turners, and it's $730 for a 365. $730! Now, for those people in California who might not know any better, if you were to go to where I live in the state of Nevada or go to an academy outside of the state of California, they're on sale for like $474 right now. I think the average price is around $500. So $500 seems to be the norm whenever I look. Sometimes you can find it for a little bit less, sometimes a little bit more, but for the most part, it's around $500. In California, for the same thing, pretty much, other than a magazine disconnect, load chamber indicator, things like that, you know, very small things, it's over $700. Over $700! That's getting fairly close to off-roster prices.

Now, if you don't know what off-roster means, that means when somebody who is exempt, okay? They're exempt from the roster, so law enforcement, government officials, people like that, when they're exempt from the roster, they can get whatever they want that's available to everybody else. When they get something and they determine that they don't want it anymore for whatever reason, they could put it on the market and you can get it. But you're going to have to pay ridiculous amounts of money for it because it's rare. I mean, it basically comes down to supply and demand. There's very few of them, and so supply and demand dictates that you're going to pay a lot more for it, right? I'm guilty of that myself. I think it's absolutely ridiculous because people are spending two, three times as much as you would pay in a free state for something that's really just basic, to be honest with you. So off-roster prices are insane. That's what you got here out of this.

So Californians win. Yeah, they got something new and something that's nice and definitely worth getting. But at the same time, you've got to pay $200 plus extra for it than you would in a free state. Now, I started thinking to myself, okay, maybe it's because there needs to be a dedicated line of machining for it, right? So there needs to be new machining, they're going to use new parts and stuff like that. But I started thinking, well, they do that for everything else as well. And the prices don't inflate when they come out with something new, right? That's available to all the free states. You don't see that new thing, which has a new line of machines just dedicated to that, probably get elevated in price. Now you don't see that. Okay, well, maybe it's the R&D that went into it, you know, the new development. There had to be some new things that had to be added to it, sure, fine. But again, isn't that what happens with everything they put out that's new? Everything they put out that's new required some type of R&D and some type of development, but you don't see that inflation going on there either.

And so I started thinking, well, maybe it's California. Maybe the retailers are just taking advantage of people. So I decided to call a buddy of mine who has access to all the different distributors around the area and what different pricing would be. And that's not the case either. As a matter of fact, the manufacturer, what the manufacturer is asking is extremely high. The manufacturer is asking for like $130, $140 over what retail is for everybody else. So you're talking about $130 over retail at the wholesale level for these people in California. Then there's a standardized pricing, right? So a lot of these manufacturers have a standardized pricing. You're not allowed to sell something lower than that standardized pricing, which is called map pricing. Okay. So if a retailer is caught cutting that price down past that map price, they can actually get in trouble with the distributor or the manufacturer and things like that. So there's a standardized pricing level. And so they're forced at that standardized pricing level. And that standardized pricing level is like hundreds of dollars more than what you would pay in a free state. Again, it's unbelievable how you get, well, I don't want to say lucky. That's the word that almost came out of my mouth, but there's a lot of people, including the FPC and others and the GOA and people that are involved in overturning these things so you guys can at least start to get some of your freedoms back. So there was a lot of work put into just this alone.

But there's people out there who fight to have these things overturned. And then when they do, the people of California see some benefit come out of it in the form of something being added to that roster. And then the negativity hits almost immediately when you find out that it is significantly more than everything else across the country. I just don't get it. Like I was saying in the beginning, it sometimes feels like even when you win, you lose. I mean, I personally, as where I live right now in Nevada, there's no way if I saw something for $730, a 365 for $730, there's no way I would get it. That's absolutely ridiculous. But if you want one in California, that's what you have to pay. It's just insane, and I just wanted to talk to you guys about that. So it's not the distributor, the distributors are stuck at a price. It's not the retailer, they're stuck at a price as well. It seems to be that it's inflated from the manufacturer. Now, I don't know that for a fact. It could happen somewhere in the middle in between the lines right between the distributor and the manufacturer or some type of contract could be written up. I'm not sure. But from everything that I've seen in my research talking to distributors, talking to retailers, and talking to wholesalers, stuff like that, it seems like it's starting at the source, and that's where the inflated price is coming from.

So, it's just, it really is just a shame, and I just wanted to bring that up to let some people know. At least when you go into your local shop and you see it for $730, $740, $750, whatever they're going to ask, it's really not their fault. They're barely making anything on it. So just try and keep that in mind. I don't know. I mean, if you add something new, just going to, I guess you're going to have to pay double for it. That's just the way it is until things could be normalized in that state. And we make that state like every other state, which I don't see happening very soon. But at least we'll have some laws overturned fairly soon here with everything that's going through the courts and everything that is as close as it is to the Supreme Court. So again, I wanted to talk to you guys about that. I want to thank you all very much for watching. I really do appreciate it. Please like, subscribe. You guys have a great day.